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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2013, 07:13:56 PM »
You would have to say that, but that relies on your false interpretation that the messiah came on 'palm Sunday'  which is easily shown false when you look at the events at His Baptism.  When Jesus himself said, "The time is fulfilled"  Mark 1:15.

What time could possibly be fulfilled but the end of the 69  weeks?
Your trying to squirm out of it David but it is still fulfilled in the midst of the week, not the end nor the beginning but the midst!  ;D

Just read the scriptures.

Christ died in the midst of the prophetic week and also the literal week
I have read the scriptures did you?

When it is fulfilled in midst of the week the sacrifices and the oblations were to cease, not 40 years later.

Both were to cease at the same time.

This did not happen at the time of Christs death and so is a future event.

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« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2013, 07:23:07 PM »
You would have to say that, but that relies on your false interpretation that the messiah came on 'palm Sunday'  which is easily shown false when you look at the events at His Baptism.  When Jesus himself said, "The time is fulfilled"  Mark 1:15.

What time could possibly be fulfilled but the end of the 69  weeks?
Your trying to squirm out of it David but it is still fulfilled in the midst of the week, not the end nor the beginning but the midst!  ;D

Just read the scriptures.

Christ died in the midst of the prophetic week and also the literal week
I have read the scriptures did you?

When it is fulfilled in midst of the week the sacrifices and the oblations were to cease, not 40 years later.

Both were to cease at the same time.

This did not happen at the time of Christs death and so is a future event.

But the sacrifice ceased, so cannot be future, as there can be no priest to offer it, as there are no priest today and anyone claiming to be a priest would be poluted, see Ezra. 

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2013, 08:17:38 PM »
Their priest are Lucifer's priest.  Haven't you heard; they are going to built a temple for Lucifer to sit in.

They say at the beginning of the week, in the midst, and at the end ------ they have to have it right.

Wonder what rest could mean?   Can I have multiple choice; this is so hard........ there's so many scriptures on the subject.
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Daniel 9:24 (KJV)
24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
70 wks determined and SEALED for Christ Jesus.

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2013, 09:05:56 AM »
You would have to say that, but that relies on your false interpretation that the messiah came on 'palm Sunday'  which is easily shown false when you look at the events at His Baptism.  When Jesus himself said, "The time is fulfilled"  Mark 1:15.

What time could possibly be fulfilled but the end of the 69  weeks?
Your trying to squirm out of it David but it is still fulfilled in the midst of the week, not the end nor the beginning but the midst!  ;D


Just read the scriptures.

Christ died in the midst of the prophetic week and also the literal week
I have read the scriptures did you?

When it is fulfilled in midst of the week the sacrifices and the oblations were to cease, not 40 years later.

Both were to cease at the same time.

This did not happen at the time of Christs death and so is a future event.


But the sacrifice ceased, so cannot be future, as there can be no priest to offer it, as there are no priest today and anyone claiming to be a priest would be poluted, see Ezra.
It cease 40 years later, the resumed in ad 135 and. It did not cease as the porphyry declared so it is a future event. There are Jewish priests today and they are being cleansed as we speak.
http://creationists.org/patrickyoung/article10.html
http://judaism.about.com/od/worshiprituals/f/kohen.htm
http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/doctrine/temple_priest_train_for_service_.htm

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2013, 12:32:19 PM »
Doctrine of Futurism: look at who's preaching it --- want to stand with them?   No!   Name one denomination that isn't on that band wagon?  You can't!

Hal Lindsay; probably the one that sold this bill of goods --- it's now out: His books were written by a Catholic woman named CC Carlson and Lindsay is Catholic supporting the Pope.

Billy Graham, Tom Horn, John Hagee, Pat Robinson, Crouch, LaHaye, Jenkins -------- all the Ecumenical bunch (surely they have it right!)       This alone should be enough.  Which one hasn't been tainted w/the false prophet?   What about Ruckman's stint with the Jesuits?   Darby's, etc......   long laundry list.   

Does any Christians want to be associated with that bunch?
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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2013, 12:55:50 PM »
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What about Ruckman's stint with the Jesuits?

that was before he as saved, what was your life like before you were saved?
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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #66 on: February 27, 2013, 01:09:33 PM »
Dung!    After I was saved I followed Jesus and have never for one day wavered away from the KJV.   I certainly didn't seek Christianity in the Jesuits.
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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2013, 01:14:03 PM »
I certainly didn't seek Christianity in the Jesuits.
Neither did Ruckman AFTER he was saved.

BEFORE I was saved, (a couple of days before in fact) I knocked on the door of my local catholic church and asked them how to get to heaven. They chased me away and I went to a baptist church and asked them the same question there. they took the bible and showed me how to get saved.

Now does that mean that I'm really a catholic because I asked them about how to get to heaven BEFORE I was saved. Do you see how preposterous that logic is?
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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #68 on: February 27, 2013, 08:08:37 PM »

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2013, 11:21:37 PM »
This topic is about futurism!

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2013, 06:57:09 PM »
This topic is about futurism!

Oh! I see!

But your previous post was about Ruckmam.

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« Reply #71 on: February 28, 2013, 06:58:50 PM »
This topic is about futurism!

Oh! I see!

But your previous post was about Ruckmam.
which post was that?  ;D

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2015, 07:58:55 PM »
The sacrifice did not cease no matter how you try and twist it. The way we KNOW the prophecy was FULFILLED was that the sacrifices would cease, they did not. Plain and simple, the prophecy is yet to be fulfilled!

The sacrifice failed in AD70 so how can it still be future.

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2015, 09:28:32 AM »
The sacrifice did not cease no matter how you try and twist it. The way we KNOW the prophecy was FULFILLED was that the sacrifices would cease, they did not. Plain and simple, the prophecy is yet to be fulfilled!


The sacrifice failed in AD70 so how can it still be future.
you quoted part of what i said but not all.

It cease 40 years later, the resumed in ad 135 and. It did not cease as the prophecy declared so it is a future event. There are Jewish priests today and they are being cleansed as we speak.
http://creationists.org/patrickyoung/article10.html
http://judaism.about.com/od/worshiprituals/f/kohen.htm
http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/doctrine/temple_priest_train_for_service_.htm

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Re: Doctrine of Futurism
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2015, 12:57:34 PM »
There may be people who call themselves priests, but they cannot because the house of archives which housed the genealogical records was burnt down by the seditious, it the wars or AD 66-70. 
Read Ezra for those who could not prove their genealogy.

 

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